WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.300 --> 00:00:10.329 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: This is Sunday, February the fourth, 2024, and we're together in our extra session for our goddess Breath Circle. 2 00:00:12.610 --> 00:00:24.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So let's watch our breaths, and the way we've been doing for a little bit. tuning to ourselves, to our own breath, and then to the circle 3 00:01:45.370 --> 00:01:47.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to wore the WAN 4 00:01:49.670 --> 00:01:52.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the perfection of love. 5 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: harmony. beauty. 6 00:01:56.410 --> 00:01:58.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the only being 7 00:01:59.660 --> 00:02:03.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: united with all the illuminated souls. 8 00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:13.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: form the embodiment of the message and the messengers the spirit of guidance. 9 00:02:39.370 --> 00:02:44.409 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Let's localize 11 times, and then take that into the rest. 10 00:02:45.700 --> 00:02:47.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. the. 11 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:49.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 12 00:02:52.510 --> 00:02:53.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 13 00:02:56.420 --> 00:02:57.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 14 00:03:00.230 --> 00:03:02.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. Hmm. 15 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:06.019 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 16 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.990 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. P, 17 00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:13.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. He. 18 00:03:14.720 --> 00:03:16.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 19 00:03:17.810 --> 00:03:19.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 20 00:03:21.260 --> 00:03:23.830 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. He. 21 00:03:37.050 --> 00:03:39.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: relaxing into that 22 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:47.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: quality of loving awareness. protective, watching over without any particular agenda. 23 00:04:51.110 --> 00:04:56.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and gently turning our attention towards the pride that's in space. 24 00:04:57.220 --> 00:05:01.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: began to draw Prala into the heart on the inhalation. 25 00:05:02.200 --> 00:05:07.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: letting it accumulate the air, and then overflow into the rest of the body. As we charge 26 00:05:08.340 --> 00:05:13.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: charge our heart, charge our breath with this life force. 27 00:06:17.310 --> 00:06:23.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: continuing to draw it in on the inhalations and radiating it outwards on the exhalations. 28 00:06:31.780 --> 00:06:34.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So they quickly become brilliant. 29 00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:38.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: like the sun shining in all directions. 30 00:07:37.140 --> 00:07:42.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then linking this charged breath with the love in our hearts. 31 00:07:54.780 --> 00:07:57.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: tuning in more deeply to the loves. 32 00:07:59.230 --> 00:08:01.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Part of our true nature 33 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:04.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: radiated 34 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that out, as well as the light that comes from the prana. 35 00:09:01.830 --> 00:09:08.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and linking our charged breath that's linked with our own love, linking that with a larger love. 36 00:09:10.270 --> 00:09:15.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Of the Creator for this creation of God's love God as His mom. 37 00:09:19.980 --> 00:09:24.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that we're opening up ourselves to this grand cycle. 38 00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:35.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Our embodiments. the world around us. Other beings. 39 00:09:37.030 --> 00:09:39.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this grand mystery. 40 00:09:40.780 --> 00:09:41.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: love 41 00:09:42.390 --> 00:09:48.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in so many different forms, so many different shapes, so many different situations and circumstances. 42 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:33.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm tuning in 43 00:11:34.140 --> 00:11:39.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: more specifically the one of the illuminated souls, whoever it may be. 44 00:11:40.790 --> 00:11:48.109 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: might be. Kuan Yin may be divine, other mother's world. Maybe you might come. 45 00:11:50.730 --> 00:11:52.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Any great teacher 46 00:11:55.020 --> 00:11:57.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whose held presence 47 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: work towards raising the vibration 48 00:12:06.770 --> 00:12:07.970 open up. 49 00:12:08.970 --> 00:12:10.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: How it might be, too. 50 00:12:14.260 --> 00:12:20.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: be more deeply connected with that being, with their heart, stream with their breath stream. 51 00:12:21.520 --> 00:12:25.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: How am I? We're off! Look from that perspective! 52 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:27.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: How might I roll. 53 00:12:28.230 --> 00:12:32.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: embodying that our own human lives look from a grander perspective 54 00:13:38.930 --> 00:13:43.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from this grander, broader master perspective. 55 00:13:46.630 --> 00:13:51.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: holding our own human lives, our own human body. 56 00:13:51.940 --> 00:13:54.979 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: with our limitations, with our 57 00:13:58.030 --> 00:14:03.519 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: unfinished business, are misunderstandings, are skills. 58 00:14:04.400 --> 00:14:13.489 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: all of the so-called good. bad qualities. All of us that make up all of the things that make up are human 59 00:14:13.640 --> 00:14:20.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: nature, holding that in this love this compassion is empathy 60 00:15:27.020 --> 00:15:30.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the dryness of clothes. Remembering it. 61 00:15:32.190 --> 00:15:37.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're not moving away from anything. We're not disconnecting from this 62 00:15:37.860 --> 00:15:41.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: larger space. We're just focusing our awareness 63 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:43.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in a different direction. 64 00:15:46.560 --> 00:15:55.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that this space is always available to us. no matter where we are, no matter what circumstance we find ourselves in. 65 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:59.699 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we just have to come back to the breath. 66 00:15:59.950 --> 00:16:01.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: slow it down. 67 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: become more subtle. 68 00:16:07.060 --> 00:16:09.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we can chill right back into it. 69 00:16:10.920 --> 00:16:13.329 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because it's who we truly are. 70 00:16:18.280 --> 00:16:19.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, I'm here. 71 00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:03.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I had an insight the other day that 72 00:17:03.910 --> 00:17:04.599 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: a 73 00:17:04.990 --> 00:17:08.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: was about a particular perspective. 74 00:17:10.520 --> 00:17:15.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it was about the perspective of our identities. 75 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:19.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Kuwait 76 00:17:20.490 --> 00:17:23.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: experience ourselves as. 77 00:17:24.819 --> 00:17:27.919 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And we got lots of identities. We've got our name. 78 00:17:28.910 --> 00:17:29.990 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We've got 79 00:17:30.190 --> 00:17:38.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the identities of some of us being a mother, some of us being a father, maybe a sister or a brother 80 00:17:38.660 --> 00:17:41.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: her profession. 81 00:17:42.090 --> 00:17:45.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's the type of identity. And then there's the 82 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the wounded identities that we have. 83 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:55.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And from this perspective this whole spiritual path, and all the practices 84 00:17:56.030 --> 00:17:57.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: could be seen 85 00:17:57.740 --> 00:18:04.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as our engagement with the process of our soul. Nature 86 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: getting engaged with identities. 87 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:17.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and where we come into suffering is if we end up through not knowing any better. 88 00:18:18.060 --> 00:18:21.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: either clinging to a particular identity too tightly. 89 00:18:22.870 --> 00:18:23.560 Okay. 90 00:18:24.280 --> 00:18:35.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: trying to push it away of either saying, Yes, I am this or no, I'm not that. And the intensity of that clinging or avoidance. 91 00:18:35.540 --> 00:18:37.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Here's what causes the suffering. 92 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:39.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If we're experiencing suffering. 93 00:18:40.180 --> 00:18:46.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and if we've identified with the traumatic experience of a wounded condition. 94 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:55.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I was thinking about the sentence construction in English that 95 00:18:57.290 --> 00:19:01.990 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: he is reinforcing the idea that these various identities are us. 96 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:04.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We say. usually 97 00:19:07.080 --> 00:19:08.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm happy 98 00:19:08.410 --> 00:19:15.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or I'm sad, or I'm angry, or I'm bummed out, or I'm this or I'm that or I'm not that. 99 00:19:16.620 --> 00:19:23.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And the very construction in English is an identification. It's a construction of identification. I am this. 100 00:19:24.140 --> 00:19:29.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And one of the things I was thinking that I want to make an effort to try and 101 00:19:30.840 --> 00:19:32.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rephrase. 102 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:39.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What I'm saying is by putting the word feeling in there. I'm feeling this condition rather than I am this condition. 103 00:19:40.670 --> 00:19:42.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So anyway, I just wanted to share that. 104 00:19:44.510 --> 00:19:46.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Ask, what do you think of it? 105 00:19:55.350 --> 00:20:01.390 Nancy: I think separating these emotions. Feelings from identity 106 00:20:01.580 --> 00:20:07.969 Nancy: is a very valuable thing to do makes perfect sense. I was reading something about 107 00:20:08.580 --> 00:20:10.489 Nancy: no spirit and soul 108 00:20:12.070 --> 00:20:21.680 Nancy: uniting, you know. anyways can't quite remember. I'll find that for you, though but in in Buddhism. Certainly. 109 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:25.269 Nancy: it was always, you know, sadness is arising. 110 00:20:25.710 --> 00:20:29.110 Nancy: Anger is arising, and and 111 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:41.929 Nancy: and and then, you know, to feel it in the body, like, you know. Instead of saying, I'm angry, it was, you know. I have this Angers arising, and then 112 00:20:43.110 --> 00:20:44.900 Nancy: go back to the body and 113 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:50.290 Nancy: connect with it. It just seems all of this. Some somatic work seems so important. 114 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, I agree. It's certainly been true of my life. 115 00:20:54.390 --> 00:20:56.569 Nancy: Yeah, thank you. Thank you. 116 00:21:01.940 --> 00:21:02.640 Rissa Ratcliffe: Aye. 117 00:21:03.710 --> 00:21:04.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: please. 118 00:21:05.610 --> 00:21:12.930 Rissa Ratcliffe: It touches in with something like this I experienced yesterday where there was a little exercise in a 119 00:21:13.350 --> 00:21:15.920 Rissa Ratcliffe: something I went to. 120 00:21:16.340 --> 00:21:17.800 Rissa Ratcliffe: and 121 00:21:17.890 --> 00:21:25.830 Rissa Ratcliffe: the invitation was for the like. The the leader of the exercise was was said something like. 122 00:21:26.070 --> 00:21:29.670 Rissa Ratcliffe: I feel shame when or I feel happy when 123 00:21:30.030 --> 00:21:33.969 Rissa Ratcliffe: and it's really interesting that you have 124 00:21:34.140 --> 00:21:41.279 Rissa Ratcliffe: saying I am feeling happy, or whatever, because I was slightly irritated by 125 00:21:41.690 --> 00:21:43.290 Rissa Ratcliffe: having to 126 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:53.740 Rissa Ratcliffe: get into. I feel shame when, because I didn't really want to engage with that, although I'm sure 127 00:21:53.860 --> 00:21:58.879 Rissa Ratcliffe: I can feel shame if I delve around, look for it. But I 128 00:21:59.110 --> 00:22:11.089 Rissa Ratcliffe: so yeah, I like, I like the idea of not just II mean, I am is very good just to let's say, but I am feeling. Something is nicer than you know. 129 00:22:11.310 --> 00:22:18.140 Rissa Ratcliffe: I am something I am cross, you know. It's nicer to be. I am feeling cross. 130 00:22:18.380 --> 00:22:23.210 Rissa Ratcliffe: So thank you for that. Just touch him with what I was 131 00:22:23.510 --> 00:22:33.629 Rissa Ratcliffe: literally getting a little bit. Well, not exactly flustered by, but just bisecting yesterday. 132 00:22:33.820 --> 00:22:34.560 Yeah. 133 00:22:36.260 --> 00:22:38.260 Leslie Roche: And and 134 00:22:39.590 --> 00:22:40.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this. 135 00:22:41.310 --> 00:22:44.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this process of approaching 136 00:22:45.790 --> 00:22:47.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: these States. 137 00:22:49.770 --> 00:22:58.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and Nancy referred to it without being very explicit about it. It's the naming of the state. 138 00:22:58.770 --> 00:23:03.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the naming of what's going on. Something's arising. 139 00:23:04.280 --> 00:23:06.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm feeling this now. 140 00:23:08.050 --> 00:23:11.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The very act of naming. 141 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whatever the condition of the State is. 142 00:23:14.260 --> 00:23:17.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: introduces a little bit of separation between 143 00:23:17.930 --> 00:23:20.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: who we truly are, and the condition. 144 00:23:21.090 --> 00:23:23.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because, if we could name it. 145 00:23:23.110 --> 00:23:28.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's not our. It's not the totality of our existence. 146 00:23:29.750 --> 00:23:35.159 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And from the the alchemical elements point view which got introduced in 147 00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:37.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: less than 3. I think 148 00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:41.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this is bringing the ether element into 149 00:23:41.690 --> 00:23:43.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the circumstance. 150 00:23:43.300 --> 00:23:47.029 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or the situation, or the state, or whatever. 151 00:23:48.040 --> 00:23:50.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from the point of view that ether is space itself. 152 00:23:52.930 --> 00:23:53.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that 153 00:23:55.090 --> 00:23:59.059 adding ether to whatever's going on, refines it 154 00:23:59.110 --> 00:24:04.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: brings more spaciousness, and sometimes even more vastness into it, so that we end up 155 00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:10.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: having more options than we did previously. Because if we're right in an identification. 156 00:24:11.550 --> 00:24:14.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's okay. That's who I am. 157 00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:17.560 And that might be great, and it may be awful. 158 00:24:17.670 --> 00:24:22.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But if we can name it and then begin to realize 159 00:24:24.390 --> 00:24:31.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're actually not that that's an energetic. That's a feeling that's a thought. That's a belief 160 00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that is arising. That is 161 00:24:34.610 --> 00:24:37.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: part of my human experience. But it's not me. 162 00:24:41.350 --> 00:24:43.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And this is a long journey. 163 00:24:46.990 --> 00:24:51.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You know, a couple of his basic techniques really, really can help 164 00:24:52.870 --> 00:25:01.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And from time to time, because it's so intense we just need to go on that ride for a while 165 00:25:03.650 --> 00:25:11.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rather than trying to just push the whole thing down. There was a non-sufi breath teacher in 166 00:25:11.550 --> 00:25:16.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: local to me years ago. Did a couple of intensives. 167 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:33.630 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And she had lots of little catchy phrases and and initials for all sorts of things, and it was a bit Hopi on one level, but it was a framework, and it was very easy learning the framework, to refer to these different states, these different ways of working. 168 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:39.729 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and she used to say with feelings, we want to neither repress them 169 00:25:39.780 --> 00:25:41.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: nor express them. 170 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:43.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We just want to feel them. 171 00:25:45.210 --> 00:25:52.279 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I really like that. because I had gotten the message about repressing doesn't work. 172 00:25:52.730 --> 00:25:56.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But I was doing a lot of expressing at that point in time. 173 00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:10.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and you know the deeper stage of that is to come into this lovely neutral space and let it arise. Notice that it's arising, and be with it, but not 174 00:26:10.490 --> 00:26:14.479 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: push it out on somebody else or some other situation. 175 00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:20.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So I'm I'm Leslie. You had something to say before I launch. 176 00:26:21.870 --> 00:26:27.839 Leslie Roche: Yeah, it was interesting. I was at this sensory awareness class yesterday. and 177 00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:32.139 Leslie Roche: The leader was a Dharma teacher and a phenomenologist. 178 00:26:32.490 --> 00:26:37.960 Leslie Roche: and he was suggesting that even the problem of thinking I 179 00:26:38.090 --> 00:26:45.670 Leslie Roche: I am aware of the anger that that's a self identity, and that dual dualism already. 180 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:50.030 Leslie Roche: that if you just sort of soften more into awareness. 181 00:26:50.710 --> 00:26:52.240 sort of the whole of you 182 00:26:52.290 --> 00:26:59.490 Leslie Roche: includes faith as well and kind of like what Nancy was saying, but even 183 00:26:59.970 --> 00:27:01.390 Leslie Roche: less fern like 184 00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:07.279 Leslie Roche: feelings are rising and feeling. The body is aware of the body 185 00:27:08.840 --> 00:27:12.169 Leslie Roche: letting go of the think that I'm the observer of this thing. 186 00:27:12.810 --> 00:27:15.379 Leslie Roche: And more, that awareness 187 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.290 Leslie Roche: is just being with what's arising. 188 00:27:20.320 --> 00:27:21.060 Leslie Roche: and 189 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:25.649 Leslie Roche: I don't know if I can convey the feeling, but I got this totally different feeling 190 00:27:26.750 --> 00:27:38.359 Leslie Roche: that you know that the I thing is what's feeding the problem. Even I am happy, or I am feeling that it's it's more the spaciousness. You know what you're calling ether 191 00:27:39.010 --> 00:27:43.790 Leslie Roche: the spaceship that is the where it's a happening and awareness. 192 00:27:45.050 --> 00:27:50.759 Leslie Roche: And with that point of view happening and awareness, you're not pushing it away or clinging to it. 193 00:27:50.880 --> 00:28:01.169 Leslie Roche: You're actually there's a kind of curiosity. and it unfolds and becomes something different than the label. Anyway. that's my idea. 194 00:28:01.890 --> 00:28:04.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Wow, I love it. I love it. 195 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:15.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, the part of us that has learned how to say I is only a fragment of who we really are. 196 00:28:16.790 --> 00:28:28.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it's gotten confused thinking. That's the whole story of who we are. So I mean, this whole process is an unlearning and a relearning and a reconfiguring and 197 00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:30.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rechoosing. 198 00:28:33.320 --> 00:28:38.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and my experience of the rakib 199 00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:40.409 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: energetic space 200 00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:45.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sounded very much like what you were describing, Nancy, is that just? 201 00:28:45.790 --> 00:28:53.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's in the space and the space has the awareness. And I was also thinking, too, that the way an iaconist is introducing breath to us 202 00:28:54.470 --> 00:28:58.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is, I think he would lay breath and awareness together 203 00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:08.019 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as as maybe not exactly the same thing. But we're definitely working with and not not harshly separated from. 204 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:15.179 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the delicacy and the gentleness that I open into when I focus on rakib 205 00:29:16.940 --> 00:29:19.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really helps move me into that. 206 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:27.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I I'm seeing it as the beginning of of of possibly the beginning stage or the doorway into 207 00:29:28.020 --> 00:29:33.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: mindfulness. Witness consciousness of of. 208 00:29:39.060 --> 00:29:49.339 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I keep falling into duality because her language is so dualistic, because it's not the observer. In that little sense. It's the observer that's participating, interacting 209 00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:54.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and being being the observed, and the observer at the same time. 210 00:29:54.830 --> 00:29:58.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if that makes sense, I mean our language is so 211 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so limited to, to 212 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.929 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: accurately describe this, and that we have to approach it from heart 213 00:30:06.280 --> 00:30:10.039 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and just get that you know the term groc. 214 00:30:12.550 --> 00:30:17.109 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: My was a science fiction novel called 215 00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:20.669 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: A Stranger at a Strange land by Robert Heinlein 216 00:30:21.950 --> 00:30:24.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the quick story it was the. 217 00:30:24.630 --> 00:30:37.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There was a mission to Mars to discover that there were Martians who were much more advanced than the human population, and a kid was born there. Parents died, and he was raised by the Martians. 218 00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:46.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So he got into this whole other way of approaching life and conscious of whatnot. That's pretty. Basically. 219 00:30:47.340 --> 00:30:50.369 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Hindu is a Buddhism 220 00:30:50.710 --> 00:30:52.910 and all of the stuff we've been talking about. 221 00:30:53.010 --> 00:31:00.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But what are the Martian words for getting that intuitive from the inside. Complete understanding of something 222 00:31:00.870 --> 00:31:04.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is croc, g rk, is what Pymline used as the word. 223 00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:09.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it's it's moved into some parts of the culture in this country. 224 00:31:09.560 --> 00:31:19.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I even heard one of the newscasters on TV about a month ago. Say, well, you know, I we just crock it. Yeah. Wonderful 225 00:31:20.030 --> 00:31:26.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But the Sufi terminology. The term for that would be Kash 226 00:31:26.340 --> 00:31:37.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: KASH. F. Which is that immediate insight that comes from the awakened heart that you. You get it from the inside 227 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:42.669 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rather than going through the discursive, analytical. 228 00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:46.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: comparative processes of the mind. 229 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one or the other 230 00:31:58.010 --> 00:32:05.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: things that goes along with the dualistic and problematic nature of identities is concepts. 231 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:08.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And and 232 00:32:08.800 --> 00:32:13.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in in the video footage of Samuel Lewis. 233 00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:23.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there's a section where he's talking about concepts that the concept of spirituality is not spirituality. Concept of love is not love. It's a concept. 234 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And concepts are useful up to a point. but they keep us separated. 235 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:48.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the amusing thing. And, Nancy, you and I talked about this. The amusing thing in in this discussion was that that he said. Avatar, who's the interviewer in this footage, says, Well, you know, people are just. They're they're really, really 236 00:32:48.340 --> 00:32:53.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: strongly hold it on other concepts. and Sam says, of course, of course they are. 237 00:32:53.320 --> 00:32:59.059 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and everybody wants solutions, but we can't have solutions because our concepts 238 00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:01.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: get in the way of the solutions. 239 00:33:03.710 --> 00:33:05.159 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 240 00:33:05.540 --> 00:33:07.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think the more 241 00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:13.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the more different ways we can look at this. 242 00:33:13.670 --> 00:33:18.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the more possibility is for understanding it on deeper and more profound levels 243 00:33:19.540 --> 00:33:25.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and and being able to look at something from a different perspective means we're not clinging to 244 00:33:25.690 --> 00:33:37.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: a particular particular perspective. And that's the beginning. From one way. It's the beginning of practicing. of holding our concepts and our identities and our perspectives lightly 245 00:33:38.010 --> 00:33:41.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rather than clinging on to him for dear life. 246 00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:48.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 247 00:33:48.680 --> 00:34:00.719 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what else questions, comments, what kind of experiences he's been having with having. And I'm I'm gonna send out a reminder for their final class, reminding people to to 248 00:34:01.060 --> 00:34:03.869 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: think over the past year 249 00:34:04.120 --> 00:34:08.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of the things we've done together, and you know 250 00:34:09.370 --> 00:34:12.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what worked, what drew you, what didn't draw you 251 00:34:13.560 --> 00:34:20.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and just kind of, you know, recap the experience and to share it with us when we get there 252 00:34:21.060 --> 00:34:24.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: term. What else is on your hearts today. 253 00:34:26.510 --> 00:34:27.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: please, Andy? 254 00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:36.020 Andy Cheffings: Well, what really struck me was that when we're doing the practice today, that 255 00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:45.870 Andy Cheffings: you said this thing so many different kinds of love in so many different circumstances that, referring that back to one love 256 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:47.230 Andy Cheffings: which was some. 257 00:34:47.310 --> 00:34:54.200 Andy Cheffings: I thought that was really, I found that very powerful today, and it linked in my mind to a title 258 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.809 Andy Cheffings: of a section in a Neil Douglas Klopp's book in a Saudi book which is called Permission to Love. 259 00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:03.750 Andy Cheffings: that really came to mind this sort of. 260 00:35:05.740 --> 00:35:20.090 Andy Cheffings: There's a sort of permission to love in what you said. which I think is very powerful. because that's extremely powerful. Yeah. that was really what struck me in today's practice. 261 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:42.339 Andy Cheffings: So I'm I'm waving a pen about. I see it on the screen. It's cause I write things down as you go along. I wasn't writing in the press. I was kept repeating it in my mind, so I remember it so when II could write it down because I thought that was. I can't exactly explain why it was so far. But that idea of permission to love 262 00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:55.620 Andy Cheffings: in what way is works for you in that moment is very, very powerful, and that, that is is, is an expression of of 263 00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:59.229 Andy Cheffings: of of the one of one. That sort of you want to say. 264 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:07.990 Andy Cheffings: yeah, one love kind of thing is, it's yeah. yeah, it's not very powerful. 265 00:36:08.580 --> 00:36:11.360 Andy Cheffings: Hmm, hmm. hmm. 266 00:36:11.490 --> 00:36:13.490 Andy Cheffings: wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. 267 00:36:17.990 --> 00:36:22.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I know where, where I'm connecting with that is that 268 00:36:23.680 --> 00:36:27.849 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if I'm not feeling the permission to love 269 00:36:30.630 --> 00:36:32.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that feels to me like there's 270 00:36:33.310 --> 00:36:34.430 wounded place 271 00:36:34.640 --> 00:36:47.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: somewhere inside that is that either there's a protector aspect, or it's that experience itself is saying, oh, wow! That really hurts, and I never get off. 272 00:36:47.850 --> 00:36:58.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Be that vulnerable yet I'm never going to open in that way, cause I don't want to hurt again. And so much of what we're doing 273 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.549 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: on one level is trying to heal those places so they can participate, too. 274 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:11.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in this larger, vaster place that is just able to be with 275 00:37:12.650 --> 00:37:15.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and open up the possibilities. 276 00:37:16.550 --> 00:37:19.219 Because if if we're in survival mode. 277 00:37:19.710 --> 00:37:21.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we don't have many options at all. 278 00:37:23.690 --> 00:37:27.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's with that. 279 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:30.559 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: alive or dead, safe or not safe. 280 00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:39.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And some situations are like that. But most of them in our lives today are not that extreme. 281 00:37:40.300 --> 00:37:52.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And yet these protector aspects in our unconscious are setting it up that way, because that's what they know how to do. They know how to protect. And and I've I've been using 282 00:37:52.520 --> 00:38:05.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: kind of the techniques of communicating with those protector aspects directly to say, Okay, great. Thank you very much for keeping me safe all of these years. And 283 00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:15.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: can we change your job description a bit? Can we expand it. So it's not quite so 284 00:38:16.080 --> 00:38:20.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: dualistic, so binary, so so rigid. What if? 285 00:38:22.160 --> 00:38:24.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's a way that works for me. 286 00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:28.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's it's not. It's probably isn't 287 00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:31.329 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: a way of working that works for everybody. 288 00:38:31.730 --> 00:38:39.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But I keep coming back to for the past month, and almost every conversation about practice or about this would be Bath, or 289 00:38:39.610 --> 00:38:46.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whatever I've come to, is that in many ways Sufism is figuring out what works. 290 00:38:48.590 --> 00:38:53.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and spending our attention with the things we figured out work. 291 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:59.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the things that we've realized don't work anymore or never did. figuring out how to disengage from them 292 00:38:59.930 --> 00:39:03.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that we can spend our energy and spend our time with what works. 293 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:18.930 Andy Cheffings: Yeah, that's trying to avoid her thing that that really run true for me in in what you were 294 00:39:19.620 --> 00:39:21.900 Andy Cheffings: saying. That protection 295 00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:25.959 Andy Cheffings: thing. Yeah. I think that I'll contemplate. That's more. 296 00:39:26.870 --> 00:39:35.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. And and in these investigations I want to invite people 2 297 00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:42.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: remember to bring the charged breath current into 298 00:39:43.650 --> 00:39:44.430 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that 299 00:39:44.530 --> 00:39:53.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: contemplation and meditation and investigation. because the charged breath is directly connected to our larger being. 300 00:39:53.940 --> 00:40:06.279 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I don't think I'm going too far out of limb to say that the charged breath is our larger being, that the charged breath is linked with love is the spirit of guidance. 301 00:40:10.180 --> 00:40:13.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it may not A equals B, 302 00:40:14.080 --> 00:40:17.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but A is intimately connected with B, 303 00:40:18.970 --> 00:40:26.559 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and as we, as we move into that space, we're linking up or opening up the doorways 304 00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:30.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to allow that vaster perspective to flow through 305 00:40:30.910 --> 00:40:35.399 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: our smaller vehicle and our smaller conditions in our smaller States. 306 00:40:40.130 --> 00:40:41.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Please. 307 00:40:46.030 --> 00:40:50.359 Rissa Ratcliffe: will you ask him? Yes, what 308 00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:54.460 Rissa Ratcliffe: what we had to sort of gain from this year is that 309 00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:07.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it is. And it's actually what we'll take up in our final meeting in 2 weeks, and I but I just wanted to sort of plant the seed again for people to begin thinking about that. 310 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:22.029 Rissa Ratcliffe: I'll just something that's that's Pr Springs Springs to mind, even though I've been absent quite a lot. But there's been a lot that has been really really helpful. But one of the 311 00:41:22.190 --> 00:41:28.009 Rissa Ratcliffe: things that's uppermost in my mind, and I've come across a few times recently 312 00:41:28.100 --> 00:41:45.410 Rissa Ratcliffe: is the you know the the strength that the group and and the work and the practice has given me to face times when I'm going to call them not mistakes, but when somebody has made what looks like a mistake. 313 00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:50.069 Rissa Ratcliffe: and I'm going to rename mistakes from here on as a 314 00:41:50.720 --> 00:42:07.020 Rissa Ratcliffe: unexpected occurrences. I don't know what, but but just recently there was a case of this in a different group that I was in the dance group, and and somebody 315 00:42:07.310 --> 00:42:19.830 Rissa Ratcliffe: got in a they just they lost it. They had a rage, for whatever reasons. But the thing is that what is just a recurring pattern? And it's just so fabulous is that 316 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:31.150 Rissa Ratcliffe: that thing that occurred could have just sprung us all apart, and we all could have run away, saying, We're not coming to this ever again. But we stood firm. 317 00:42:31.260 --> 00:42:38.909 Rissa Ratcliffe: And over the week on this particular thing called the Mistake. 318 00:42:39.340 --> 00:42:59.950 Rissa Ratcliffe: It has been just such a gift to the group, because it's just it's it's just been like sort of I don't know what, so precious, because we've all started talking to each other and getting to know each other on a much deeper level, level, level level. And so the workers, the the work that sort of gives you that inner 319 00:42:59.990 --> 00:43:08.200 Rissa Ratcliffe: strength and love for yourself, and whatever that we do in these groups in in this Sufi group 320 00:43:08.210 --> 00:43:13.820 Rissa Ratcliffe: is just is so empowering when you're faced with 321 00:43:14.010 --> 00:43:23.790 Rissa Ratcliffe: with those occurrences, and there's lots of them. And also, yeah, I mean, I won't go off too long, but also my sister's in a terrible terrible space, and 322 00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:32.949 Rissa Ratcliffe: and I'm just finding it so much easier to think of something to say, you know, to say, to just try and hold her 323 00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:40.359 Rissa Ratcliffe: in it, etc., etc. But I won't go on, but thank you, and I have been absent so much. 324 00:43:40.710 --> 00:43:51.680 Rissa Ratcliffe: But this is a whole New year. Now this is the beginning of my mum getting really ill at this point last year. And now she isn't here anymore. And I'm coming out of those 325 00:43:52.530 --> 00:43:55.800 Rissa Ratcliffe: those that year of strangeness. 326 00:43:58.670 --> 00:44:01.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you. Thank you. 327 00:44:02.970 --> 00:44:11.050 Rissa Ratcliffe: What is there a Sufi thing word for that? And non-m mistake occurrence, whatever it's whatever you might term term it? 328 00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:14.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I really loved the way you articulated it 329 00:44:14.830 --> 00:44:18.870 Rissa Ratcliffe: and unexpected. How was it? An unexpected occurrence? 330 00:44:18.980 --> 00:44:20.230 Rissa Ratcliffe: Occurrence? 331 00:44:24.040 --> 00:44:27.990 Rissa Ratcliffe: There was a Sufi friend of mine in the early nineties, who 332 00:44:28.310 --> 00:44:32.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: had an engineering background and work with 333 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:37.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: crews of people building things and some of some aspects for software 334 00:44:37.080 --> 00:44:38.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: dependent. 335 00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:51.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And he had sarcastically created another word for or another term for a bug in the software where the software then did not work. 336 00:44:52.170 --> 00:44:53.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it was 337 00:44:53.850 --> 00:44:58.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: an undocumented feature for no additional charge. 338 00:45:04.310 --> 00:45:06.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Brilliant, you know. 339 00:45:10.090 --> 00:45:18.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And you know, if we can get into the space if we know where that space in us is, and if we can access it. 340 00:45:19.470 --> 00:45:22.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: everything can become this type of opportunity. 341 00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:26.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, wow! How curious! 342 00:45:27.150 --> 00:45:28.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What about that? 343 00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:40.480 Rissa Ratcliffe: Yeah, gift has come up a lot in the last couple of unexpected occurrences. 344 00:45:42.450 --> 00:45:49.149 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And now, if God goes into this a number of times comes back to it a number of times, both in the the bowl of sake. 345 00:45:49.780 --> 00:45:54.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: his extra words about Bulksaki, and then in some other places. 346 00:45:54.990 --> 00:45:56.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that 347 00:45:57.450 --> 00:46:00.619 heaven and hell are right here 348 00:46:01.260 --> 00:46:05.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: right now, it just depends on our perspective. 349 00:46:07.560 --> 00:46:11.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that if we learn how to shift our perspective. 350 00:46:12.890 --> 00:46:13.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we can. 351 00:46:14.120 --> 00:46:19.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And again, because he's he's so immersed in the ideal. This is the ideal condition. 352 00:46:19.910 --> 00:46:27.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Once we learn that we can transmute our experience of any situation. 353 00:46:31.650 --> 00:46:33.500 tall order. 354 00:46:34.200 --> 00:46:41.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But you know we keep working at it, and we do baby steps and then larger steps and whatnot keeping working with this 355 00:46:42.180 --> 00:46:49.319 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the reason it works is that 356 00:46:50.130 --> 00:46:55.929 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: everything is interpenetrating all at the same time. It's all right here. 357 00:46:57.540 --> 00:47:04.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and our normal. a socialized, acculturated perspective has us looking outside of herself 358 00:47:04.180 --> 00:47:12.049 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as transactional and situational. Oh, you know, there's a cause, and there's an effect, and they're outside 359 00:47:12.890 --> 00:47:15.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and an aspect of them is. 360 00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:20.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But there's also this awareness that we're working on. 361 00:47:20.710 --> 00:47:28.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: opening up to and being more and more comfortable with. that is just being wet. 362 00:47:30.370 --> 00:47:35.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: just being present in an empathetic and compassionate way. 363 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that opens us up to a larger stream of guidance. 364 00:47:43.460 --> 00:47:58.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and some of that guidance may be. Oh, if I act at this moment it could help it. And other times it's oh, okay, nothing to do here, nothing to say here, but just be present and to be with. 365 00:48:03.390 --> 00:48:06.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I know when I've been in. 366 00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:09.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really. in painful states. 367 00:48:10.080 --> 00:48:13.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in touch with with a wounded place. 368 00:48:14.490 --> 00:48:16.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what a gift 369 00:48:16.600 --> 00:48:19.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: someone else holding space in that way is 370 00:48:24.420 --> 00:48:26.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: adjust. Yeah. 371 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And and in that space 372 00:48:31.990 --> 00:48:34.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we get that the other person understands 373 00:48:34.540 --> 00:48:40.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and they're not trying to change it. They're not trying to fix it. They're not trying to distract us into some other 374 00:48:41.510 --> 00:48:44.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: other something. It's just, wow, man, that really sucks. 375 00:48:44.890 --> 00:48:46.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that really hurts. 376 00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:59.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So I think we probably could could condense down all of these practices and all of these teachings to that. 377 00:49:00.740 --> 00:49:03.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: learning how to be present to be with. 378 00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:16.149 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then I win you the moment, Rissy, you said the word gift. I went back to that hadith about Allah says I am hidden treasures 379 00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:21.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yearning to be known. And so I created all of this 380 00:49:21.630 --> 00:49:23.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that I could be known. 381 00:49:28.270 --> 00:49:32.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one worm's survival mode for not seeking any treasures at all. 382 00:49:33.700 --> 00:49:36.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We're trying to get out of the painful condition. 383 00:50:18.570 --> 00:50:25.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Has anyone looked at resources that are available for that final class? 384 00:50:30.970 --> 00:50:32.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm hoping they're useful. 385 00:50:33.680 --> 00:50:38.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: especially those overviews, the overview of the the 386 00:50:40.460 --> 00:50:46.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the readings and the safari, you know. How do you find something in all of this course material? 387 00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:55.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I know. I know. I read it somewhere. I knew it was somewhere in the videos. So I'm hoping that that that will be useful 388 00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:08.679 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: after the fact. and I've I've come to this 389 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: place in myself a number of times over the past couple of years. 390 00:51:17.020 --> 00:51:24.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If we just learn how to be with watch and be with our breath in a deeper way. 391 00:51:26.610 --> 00:51:27.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we've got it. 392 00:51:29.180 --> 00:51:34.589 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because what that space allows is, it's the beginning of allowing the breath to be our own teacher. 393 00:51:38.330 --> 00:51:49.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then all of the other practices are just permutations that are working on different subtleties at different angles and different perspectives of that fundamental point of being with the breath 394 00:51:49.730 --> 00:51:55.019 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in in an engaged way, without a particular agenda. 395 00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:15.669 Leslie Roche: I have a question about that. Does that mean that we 396 00:52:15.850 --> 00:52:20.710 Leslie Roche: let the breath be as it is in all situations? Or does it mean that 397 00:52:20.890 --> 00:52:23.109 Leslie Roche: when we notice how it is, we 398 00:52:23.150 --> 00:52:26.280 Leslie Roche: work gently with it to 399 00:52:26.370 --> 00:52:30.430 Leslie Roche: make it more refined and subtle, and come back to ourselves. 400 00:52:33.180 --> 00:52:37.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think the answer is, it depends on the situation. 401 00:52:40.370 --> 00:52:45.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But we're. you know, there's a lot of different tools 402 00:52:45.690 --> 00:52:58.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we've been given that can work with the breath to to move it into a more rhythmic, more refined state. But if we're if we're trying to to to climb stairs or climb a hill. 403 00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:05.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: refined breath isn't going to do it. because the body needs a lot more oxygen. 404 00:53:05.570 --> 00:53:11.209 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so the breath may be very coarse and very forceful and and 405 00:53:11.640 --> 00:53:18.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but if we're in a situation that 406 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:24.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: doesn't require that level of physical activity. And we are breathing heavily. 407 00:53:25.720 --> 00:53:30.990 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Then we might wanna interact and engage with it and calm it down. 408 00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:35.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one incredibly potent. 409 00:53:35.090 --> 00:53:42.869 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: very, very mundane and minor situation. When I lived in Hawaii in the eighties 410 00:53:43.500 --> 00:53:53.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there was a particular beach that me and my friends always went to and around the corner from that beach 411 00:53:53.390 --> 00:53:57.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: was a little cove where the water was calmer as they were 412 00:53:58.630 --> 00:54:04.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: waves that were coming in at the beach where we were. and it was a great place to smarkle. 413 00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:12.999 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and there was all kinds of fish and big fish and little fish and whatnot, and the first time I went around there I was by myself. 414 00:54:14.100 --> 00:54:21.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I've got the the mask on which is completely limiting my my view to what I can see out of the front of the mask. 415 00:54:22.010 --> 00:54:28.059 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I've got the snorkel in my mouth, so I'm breathing through my mouth rather than through my nose. 416 00:54:29.810 --> 00:54:30.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 417 00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:47.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I was thinking, Okay, great. I'm around here. The water's calm. Oh, look! There's a tiny little piece of driftwood. and I don't know whether they were a kind of angel fish that only grew that big, or they were baby angealfish. But there were about a dozen of em around this little piece of wood. 418 00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:51.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And oh, wow! Look at that! Look at that! And I'm 419 00:54:51.370 --> 00:54:55.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing, breathing through my mouth, back and forth, and then 420 00:54:56.150 --> 00:54:58.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: my state started to shift. 421 00:55:01.140 --> 00:55:06.909 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm like, well, you know, with the way my vision's limited. What if there's a shark? 422 00:55:09.310 --> 00:55:12.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And of course that fed into itself? 423 00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:17.919 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I started breathing more heavily again through the mouth. 424 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I was amping up. 425 00:55:22.630 --> 00:55:27.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's emotional content of that. What if there's a shark? 426 00:55:28.300 --> 00:55:29.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 427 00:55:30.560 --> 00:55:33.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: all of a sudden I realized, hang on a minute. 428 00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:43.709 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm breathing through my mouth, and I'm feeding right into my fearful emotions with breathing. breathing in my breathing through my mouth. So I took 429 00:55:43.810 --> 00:55:50.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: strong control of the rhythm or the temple of my breathing. and I slowed it down. 430 00:55:52.820 --> 00:55:55.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it was hard in the beginning. 431 00:55:55.610 --> 00:56:02.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but I did. I just exhaled more slowly and inhaled more slowly, and it took about 5 min. 432 00:56:02.450 --> 00:56:04.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But my emotional 433 00:56:04.410 --> 00:56:07.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: upset calmed down tremendously 434 00:56:08.250 --> 00:56:11.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: by just controlling the tempo 435 00:56:12.200 --> 00:56:13.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of my breathing. 436 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:23.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So that was sort of a direct experience of their and the teachings. Yeah, I've known the teachings for years. There's a breath. 437 00:56:23.270 --> 00:56:29.109 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is there's a connection between the breath and the body, the breath and emotions, the breath and the thoughts 438 00:56:29.700 --> 00:56:36.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the thoughts and emotions can affect the breath. The breath can affect the thoughts and emotions. 439 00:56:38.290 --> 00:56:39.849 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 440 00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:47.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: II think this is just a long way of answering the the question, Leslie. III definitely think it's it's situational. 441 00:56:48.090 --> 00:56:52.279 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And what's the best approach for this particular situation? 442 00:56:54.990 --> 00:56:59.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So feel like a A good enough answer with a question. 443 00:57:04.310 --> 00:57:11.480 Leslie Roche: I don't think there is a good enough answer, because I think it's open unfolding kind of thing. 444 00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:16.120 Leslie Roche: Yeah, yeah. But I have one more slight question, which is 445 00:57:16.410 --> 00:57:22.299 Leslie Roche: Wally? Ellie said something about because of the breath being able to be friends with everybody. I think 446 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:31.479 Leslie Roche: something like that. I forgot exactly. and it reminded me of this woman and and merchants that of Earth. who said that from the 447 00:57:31.640 --> 00:57:39.299 Leslie Roche: all the planet walks and stuff, she learned how to change and get into the breath of different people. 448 00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:52.219 Leslie Roche: and that really helped her in her work. and I remember I was once at Slyne, and and somebody knew how to do that. and tuned into my breath. And all of a sudden there's this incredible feeling of resonance. 449 00:57:52.690 --> 00:58:02.670 Leslie Roche: not not in the breathing, but in in the field of energy. And so I was wondering. Somehow I still haven't learned how to do that. I was wondering about it. 450 00:58:03.650 --> 00:58:04.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Have! 451 00:58:06.420 --> 00:58:08.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: This is 452 00:58:09.660 --> 00:58:14.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the beginning stage of the Tasavori merchant practice. 453 00:58:16.590 --> 00:58:20.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's an attunement to a different energy state. 454 00:58:22.740 --> 00:58:29.849 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the way merchant taught it to his students first, and the way I learned it first was to walk behind 455 00:58:31.390 --> 00:58:41.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: him or demonstrated. He demonstrated a walk and then invited people to come and walk too. And basically, it's okay. 456 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:55.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Mentally, in the beginning, you begin to imitate the the gait and and the movement, and the the body posture and whatnot. But then, if we can relax, we get into feeling what the field is. 457 00:58:56.130 --> 00:58:59.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then beginning to imitate that field 458 00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:03.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: joining that field, and that's where the resonance comes from. 459 00:59:03.890 --> 00:59:14.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And Sam was a gardener as well, and he had gardens. You have one in Nevado, and and probably a small one in the back of the Metro garden in San Francisco. 460 00:59:15.040 --> 00:59:20.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he would be out, crawling along, weeding 461 00:59:20.740 --> 00:59:25.349 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: along the paths of the gardens, and the students would come and crawl behind him. 462 00:59:25.520 --> 00:59:28.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and again getting into his rhythm. 463 00:59:29.680 --> 00:59:38.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And what are the ways you can practice. It is walking behind someone 464 00:59:38.370 --> 00:59:47.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: without even saying anything to them, and sort of suss out. what state are they in? What's it feel like, and can I mirror that? 465 00:59:49.200 --> 00:59:55.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's just. It begins to build the practice of putting on different States? 466 00:59:57.080 --> 01:00:02.059 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then with Tasawori, remembering that 467 01:00:02.130 --> 01:00:05.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the the word itself. Tasawwar means 468 01:00:07.390 --> 01:00:10.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: creating a form creating a metal image 469 01:00:12.130 --> 01:00:18.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in meditation and concentration. You build the image in the inner world. 470 01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.149 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then it gets enlivened 471 01:00:21.290 --> 01:00:24.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from deeper in the inner world because you made a form for it. 472 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:27.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So we create a form of 473 01:00:29.750 --> 01:00:34.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: concentrating on Merchant Sam. Maybe by looking at the picture, maybe just by imagining. 474 01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:41.919 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and there's an attunement and a resonance that begins to happen. And if we work at it. 475 01:00:41.940 --> 01:00:46.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that dose of war becomes the channel that allows us to 476 01:00:47.510 --> 01:00:48.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: enter that state. 477 01:00:50.070 --> 01:00:52.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And if we go grander 478 01:00:52.450 --> 01:01:03.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: imagining Mother Mary or Krishna, or or one of the Buddhas, or we're just beginning to 479 01:01:03.610 --> 01:01:09.279 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: adopt their resonance, their attitude, their field. 480 01:01:09.570 --> 01:01:11.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and reproducing it in ourselves. 481 01:01:17.530 --> 01:01:21.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So it's very, very simple from the beginning. 482 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:31.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Walk behind some one and and see what their walk is like. And in the beginning it's probably just going to be an imitation of their physical gait and their posture. 483 01:01:32.140 --> 01:01:36.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But if we can refine our breath and settle deeper into it. 484 01:01:38.810 --> 01:01:44.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're gonna perceive some other things. And as you said, you began to feel that resonance. 485 01:01:45.070 --> 01:02:00.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's not just from the other person in the external sense. because our deeper being and their deeper being at the deepest level are the same being. 486 01:02:00.830 --> 01:02:15.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We've got that energetic configuration, that quality, that whatever it is, we've got that inside us. We've got all of them inside us. Some of them are closer to the surface. Some of we know, and we we 487 01:02:15.620 --> 01:02:22.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: channel ourselves, others we don't know yet, and that type of toss away. Practice begins to wake it up inside of us 488 01:02:23.370 --> 01:02:28.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that we can then step into that place when we need it. 489 01:02:29.170 --> 01:02:31.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Bring it through. Now, Andy, do you have a comment? 490 01:02:32.600 --> 01:02:33.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Okay. 491 01:02:34.160 --> 01:02:38.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, I'm I'm looking at gestures, too. Trying to. 492 01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:40.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, does that make sense? Melissa? 493 01:02:43.380 --> 01:02:44.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. 494 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:59.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And the planetary walks, or the walks of the eleventh are the same style of thing. do a particular breathing pattern, try and enter the energy of that particular planet, that particular element. 495 01:02:59.730 --> 01:03:09.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that we get to know more about it, and then when we really get good at them, we can combine them. And then we've got more tools to bring to any particular situation. 496 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:17.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that if there's something fiery going on we might enter the water element to to 497 01:03:18.300 --> 01:03:31.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: cool the fire, or we might go right to ether to try and refine the fire or looking at the planetary. If we're going to go into a job interview, we need to be sunny and solar to project our good qualities. 498 01:03:32.470 --> 01:03:47.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But if we're in a compassionate sitting with someone. we needed a moon to create this, this holding empty containers so that they have the safe space to be the space they're in. 499 01:03:50.170 --> 01:03:51.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 500 01:03:51.710 --> 01:04:00.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that all came out of people approaching immersion, Sam students approaching astrology in a conceptual way 501 01:04:01.410 --> 01:04:03.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rather than an experiential way. 502 01:04:03.990 --> 01:04:10.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it was primarily people freaking out about Mars going retro, mercury going retro. 503 01:04:11.910 --> 01:04:16.179 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Mercury is going retro. We're not going to be able to get everything done and everything's going to go wrong. 504 01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:18.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 505 01:04:18.810 --> 01:04:25.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if I remember the story correct, the first thing he said was, the breath is more powerful than the planets. 506 01:04:25.700 --> 01:04:35.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and out of that that opened up. and he brought the planetary walks through to give people more and more of a an experiential way of of dealing with them. 507 01:04:38.410 --> 01:04:39.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 508 01:04:41.650 --> 01:04:47.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if a group of folks gets really good at the individual planets. 509 01:04:49.680 --> 01:05:05.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: then combinations come next. and then the next stage is walking a person S chart around them. or the configuration of the chart. And then whoever's guiding it will take a look. It's okay. There's a square here. 510 01:05:06.450 --> 01:05:14.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We'll get 2 people staying 90 degrees from each other, as they're each doing the planetary rhythm around the person. 511 01:05:15.790 --> 01:05:16.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 512 01:05:18.070 --> 01:05:21.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I felt it. And other people in the class I went through, felt it was like. 513 01:05:21.550 --> 01:05:23.470 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, wow. 514 01:05:23.980 --> 01:05:37.979 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: boy! I recognize this energy place. It happens in my life a lot. And then you look at the chart and take a look at what else is there which would help balance that out? And then other people get called in to work. Well, that configuration. Maybe it's a trying 515 01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:48.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and okay. So when you're feeling that square energy or that oppositional energy here, you've got this natural configuration in your astrological charge to balance it out. 516 01:05:48.280 --> 01:06:01.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So I mean, it's it's brilliant, brilliant experience to go through that and to realize how clearly you could feel it after a while. But you've got to get the basic planets down really good before it works. 517 01:06:02.430 --> 01:06:06.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And this same could be said for the walks of the saints, prophets, and masters 518 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:08.820 breath 519 01:06:09.180 --> 01:06:13.320 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: learning how to, and I mean from the New Age realm. 520 01:06:13.350 --> 01:06:19.359 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Shano Kuanyan. in a situation. How would Kuan Yin be in this situation? 521 01:06:19.420 --> 01:06:20.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 522 01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:29.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I like having her behind me, and I think my primary attunement is to her in that space. 523 01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:40.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And so the the the practice of beginning to attune to the different illuminated souls 524 01:06:40.600 --> 01:06:49.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is to get us more and more familiar with those energetic spaces, and come to the realization that we have all of them inside us. 525 01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:56.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Their heart stream. Their breath stream is within us in our master being. 526 01:06:56.600 --> 01:07:08.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and we just need, you know, it's like it's like It's like a cable broadcast with a million channels. and we need to learn where the tuner is and how to tune to the channel that we want to watch. 527 01:07:10.390 --> 01:07:13.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Okay, I'm tired of Westerns. I'm gonna look at sports. 528 01:07:13.340 --> 01:07:18.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm tired of complaining. I want to look at compassion. 529 01:07:20.180 --> 01:07:24.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm tired of struggling. Let's see how I can be 530 01:07:24.090 --> 01:07:26.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: peace peaceful, you know, whatever it is. 531 01:07:26.770 --> 01:07:29.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And the breath 532 01:07:29.710 --> 01:07:31.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is the connector 533 01:07:32.460 --> 01:07:39.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to all of it. It's the doorway, it's the elevator, it's the channel. It's the the 534 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:49.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: motivating force, etc., etc., etc. wow! 535 01:07:51.550 --> 01:08:00.669 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, yes, we've gone over. Okay. I was looking at the minutes and seconds rather than the hours and minutes. Anything else before we start up 536 01:08:07.090 --> 01:08:11.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: once again, as always, I want to thank you for 537 01:08:13.010 --> 01:08:14.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what we create together. 538 01:08:15.660 --> 01:08:22.389 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I always come away from the session feeling like, I've gotten gifts. And I've gotten blessings 539 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:24.380 from our interactions. 540 01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:26.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So yeah. 541 01:08:26.950 --> 01:08:31.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: thank you. And that's that's truly not just polite words. 542 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:43.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So I will see you again in 2 weeks. and maybe I'll see you again. 543 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whoever that's sitting on Nancy's lap. 544 01:08:49.010 --> 01:08:57.849 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's okay. I don't want to put you 545 01:08:59.490 --> 01:09:02.379 Nancy: well, right? Right? 546 01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:07.849 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Okay, dear hearts, thanks so much. 547 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.939 Nancy: Let's stop the recording here. Thank you so much fabulous.